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Will it be "safe" for me to attend the auction this year?

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James The Dog:
Something I've found myself thinking about- last week on UKFur, someone mentioned that their dad was accompanying them to CF, and one person's advice was "don't take him into the auction" as well as some discussion about when a couple of old ladies walked in just as some porn came up on the big screen. I'm just wondering how things are going to be handled this year. As I've frustratingly had to miss the auction the past 2 years, just wondering if it will be safe to come in this year (is the adult stuff going to be either censored or held until the end), or is it better advised for me to avoid it again?

Cosmo:
The current plan is to censor the adult art that's shown on the screen. Due to time constraints and not knowing how much art is going to show up, however, I can only promise to do our best. If needs be I'll put a warning up near the stage room and Art Show to tell people it's not censored, but I don't currently envisage it being a problem.
The art that is carried round the auction for people to have a closer look will not be censored, so I can't guarantee you won't see anything you don't like that way.
We won't be keeping the adult stuff until last. The reason we mix all the art up is to keep as many people in the room as possible because, as it's a charity auction, we obviously want to make as much as we can for them. Over the years we've managed to keep a pretty high attendance by doing it this way.
The Art Show will also not be censored, but like last year it will be split in to general art and adult art, so you should be able to avoid seeing stuff you don't want to see.
Hope this helps :)

LevLion:
If someones being taken by their father then they should already make him aware of what there will be there after all adult art doesnt worry some people as much as 2 guys holding hands does. The assumption that older people will be more offended by such things is a bit of a silly thing anyway everyones different.

RizzoRattie:
Hi James,

As per previous comments, we have to take a very holistic view of the community that this convention is servicing, and whether you like it or not, a large aspect of that is adult artwork.  Regretably from your perspective, that means it causes offense, but unfortunately, when it comes down to the grind and we have to make a decision based on how it impacts one individual v's the majority,  and the thousands of pounds we can raise for our charity, the decision is very obvious.

Whilst the artwork in the show is going to be censored, the general view point is to not censor people, their interests, or why they are attending a convention - within reason.  Obviously we expect people to exercise common sense regarding public signs of affection, and them not waving certain artwork etc.  It would be prudent for this person going with their Father, as Lev suggested, to give them forewarning what the event is about, and what to possibly expect.  This is exactly what I have to do when I am negotiating with the hotel, as it means there is no margin for surprise once they are hosting ConFuzzled. 

I would like to highlight very clearly at this time, since you have raised it again, that the elderly ladies that entered into the auction last year should not even have been in the hotel in the first place, since we had paid for venue exclusivity, and they a) did not become exposed to any adult artwork in the 2 minutes they were present and b) were ejected immediately once it was realised they were there.  The hotel were as a result of this incident, in breach of their contract with us.  This is why, although I will not disclose further information, we were reimbursed a significant amount of money which was then subsequently used in investing into the new venue.  This reiterates the point earlier that we felt no need to censor the general content in the show, because people from outside of the community, apart from bar staff whom were fully briefed in advance, should not have been there in the fist place.

If you genuinely feel you cannot attend the live art auction, you obviously have the opportunity to bid on items you are interested in during the art show.  Unfortunately, there is a risk that if the item you are interested in does go to live auction and you do not attend the show, that you miss the piece but unfortunately, we find that on the whole, this process works very fairly for the majority.  Hopefully this wont happy to you though and all pieces you are interested in you will place a winning bid.

Kind Regards,

Rizzorat

lamar:
I'm not sure I understand the objection to censoring adult art in a general attendance event, or asking it to be segregated into the last portion of the auction. It's won't remove that art from bidding, and I don't see how it would reduce the amount of money raised. It may well increase because people who avoid adult art may be more willing to attend and bid.

Also, I want to make it clear, James is not 'one individual'. I share his opinion on this, and I would be surprised if it was just the two of us. Additionally, I had assumed from previous comments that the Art Auction was going to be censored or have Adult Art segregated this year because of complaints raised last year, and I am entirely surprised at this announcement that Adult Art may be presented un-censored in the middle of a general attendance event.

If the person presenting it for the auction can't censor it in time for the auction, it should not go in the auction. It's that simple and how pretty much every other fandom convention does it.

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