Headless Fursuiters...

[Amethyst]

Hey video editors; why not stick some fursuit head censor-bars on the headless guys? xD

[Panthras]

At the end of the day, when suiting itt can get rather uncomfortable and warm sometimes, and there were moments when I had bandana slips down over my eyes, but if that happens you just take yourself to the side if its in a main performance area if you're too far from the lounge. I'm always conscious and wary of the fact that there will be people with cameras around, but as many have said already its a magic verses health situation, everyone is different in their approach mind you

[Fairlight]

I think we're clear that health reasons are fine. But very few of the complaints about this year were health-related.

The issue seems to be the fursuiters who took their head off to have a chat and a beer while in public con areas.

Think of it like this: When fire-ants are in your pants, just stop the rants and take them off. But if you just drop, (not pants, not top), quite many folks will have a strop.

(Ok, that was the worst rhyming ever...) But yeah. Health reasons are fine, socializing reasons are what are questioned atm.

[tryst]

It's my opinion that, as the suits are private property of private individuals, they are within their rights to wear them however they please, within the bounds of common decency of course. Sure, it upsets some people seeing others wearing incomplete suits, but there's no mystery that there's anything other than a human being inside one. At least, there's no mystery to anyone over the age of six.

Yes, we should be talking about this. Yes, we could make said fursuiters aware of how we feel on the issue. No, we shouldn't be making rules; nothing beyond rule eight anyway.

[Lazerus101]

Well said Tryst. I pretty much agree with you on every point.

[RizzoRattie]

This is a thread that could go back and forth for a long time with personal opinion and regardless of which side of the fence I sit on, the simple facts are that there is not now nor will there be a written policy that people have to agree to, to NOT take their heads off.  This would be applying a very strict dress code which could both be very difficult to actually police, and also would be an incredible breach of personal choice of attendees. 

As per earlier replies, how people wish to represent themselves in their fursuits is entirely down to them.  Ultimately, it is their character, their property, and their right to choose.  I cannot even agree that this is a cultural difference as has been suggested as I often see headless suiters at EF, MFF, and FC, I think its more so a case of what impact it has on the inidividual and what we choose to see/not see and/or not comment on.

The one point I would make ultimately is that this year, as with last, it was very humid and muggy due to the rain followed by a heat wave.  This is certainly reason enough for anyone to take their heads off, and whilst it might 'ruin the magic', again irrespective of my own views on this break of character, the attendees health and well being, and right to socialise and have a good time, is the conventions primary concern.

[Futureblocker]

It was my First Con, and I was unhappy to see some Fursuiters walking around without their heads on!

During the Fursuit Fiasco, I was glancing towards the refreshments and I saw Fursuiters taking their heads off.
There should be an area of the Room that should feature large Boards that are up to 6'6 in height - that way the fursuiters can take their heads off in private and have refreshments!

[Hawker-Blue]

During the Fursuit Fiasco, I was glancing towards the refreshments and I saw Fursuiters taking their heads off.
There should be an area of the Room that should feature large Boards that are up to 6'6 in height - that way the fursuiters can take their heads off in private and have refreshments!

Perhaps that's something worth considering. i assume it didn't come into the budget this year. As for taking our heads off during downtime in the fursuit Fiasco (i did) Its safe to say, after jumping around attempting to get on those chairs, or avoiding the little yellow balls of death, one was quite hot sweaty and in need of some headless air for thirty seconds, so its a wee different from the taking off in full public for a chat (not that I'm opposed to that either)

[Tenderpaws]

It was my First Con, and I was unhappy to see some Fursuiters walking around without their heads on!

During the Fursuit Fiasco, I was glancing towards the refreshments and I saw Fursuiters taking their heads off.
There should be an area of the Room that should feature large Boards that are up to 6'6 in height - that way the fursuiters can take their heads off in private and have refreshments!

Yes, this was a concern of mine and I also found myself having to lift my head off a bit which is something I don't do, as a rule. I will forward this to events so they can look into this for next year.

Many thanks!
Tender Paws.

[Bezel]

If I recall, AC introduced a "screened off area" for suiters in the main hall - as the trek back to the nearest fursuit lounge was too far. I guess it all depends on the layout of the new hotel - who knows, there may be a lounge right next door

[Kamuniak]

This thing... I thought there might be discussion about this since I've never seen so many headless fursuiters in any convention before. This is of course matter where no-one is right or wrong, but just have opinions. But personally I don't like it that there are people casually walking around in fursuits without their head on.

No need to mention that it is okay if there is emergency or health issue. Even okay if it is quick or random. But there was people who spent hours sitting in the bar or outside wearing headless fursuit. Or smoking in suit, isn't that dangerous or at least smell sticks to the fur? At sunday evening there was even group of headless suiters with "ruining the magic 2013" or similar signs taped on their chest or back. That is pretty much rubbing it to other people face already.

Like someone already mentioned, this have changed a lot during years. Only about 5 years ago if someone had to take head off for a moment, it was done quickly behind corner. Also this seems to be more UK thing. Not that I could compare to more than Eurofurence or Nordic Fuzz Con, but they don't seem to have this problem, at least not in this magnitude.

[yagfox]

From all the thousands I've seen so far. The issue of people without heads ruining photos doesn't seem very apparent.

[Dhary Montecore]

From all the thousands I've seen so far. The issue of people without heads ruining photos doesn't seem very apparent.

Unfortunately even our official camera-man have problems cutting their material. Unfortunately you seem to wrong here :/

[Tenderpaws]

From all the thousands I've seen so far. The issue of people without heads ruining photos doesn't seem very apparent.

Wish I could say it was an exaggeration, Yag. I have spent ages just splitting video with the headless folks in them.
If you look at my tweets from yesterday, you'll see what I am talking about. http://t.co/u5feepJINK

It must have been the rush hour or something

Tender Paws.

[yagfox]

From all the thousands I've seen so far. The issue of people without heads ruining photos doesn't seem very apparent.

Unfortunately even our official camera-man have problems cutting their material. Unfortunately you seem to wrong here :/

Sorry, not really understanding what you're saying there?