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Forum Archive CF2008-2011 (Read Only) => General Discussion & Feedback => 2008 Discussion => Topic started by: The Dark Knight on May 15, 2007, 12:21:47
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So, who's bringing a fursuit to ConFuzz? And if so which one(s)? :)
I'll be brining Radinov, my female husky and probably my werewolf (http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/v/fursuits/graafen/) if I can transport them both. :D
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i just been bring my upcoming fursuit Cerebus i keep dani at home
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I'll be bringing Avalanche to CF :D
I dont think my second suit (secret, ssshhhhh) will be done by then if my money situation is good at the end of this year to afford him unless im very lucky.
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I'll be bringing Avalanche to CF :D
I dont think my second suit (secret, ssshhhhh) will be done by then if my money situation is good at the end of this year to afford him unless im very lucky.
I look forward to seeing how Av turns out. :D
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I don't have a suit yet, but if I can save up in time for the con, then I'm hoping to have a suit comisisoned of my character :D
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I don't have a suit yet, but if I can save up in time for the con, then I'm hoping to have a suit comisisoned of my character :D
Oooh, awesome. What sorta style are you looking for? Toony or realistic? :)
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I don't have a suit yet, but if I can save up in time for the con, then I'm hoping to have a suit comisisoned of my character :D
Oooh, awesome. What sorta style are you looking for? Toony or realistic? :)
I'm thinking of something semi-toony-realistic... kinda styled after the excellent con-badge that Sangluna has drawn of my character (see my avatar to the left). If it could be done to look exactly like that drawing, that would be ideal in my mind :)
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Yea Ill be bringing mine
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Oooh, awesome. What sorta style are you looking for? Toony or realistic? :)
I'm thinking of something semi-toony-realistic... kinda styled after the excellent con-badge that Sangluna has drawn of my character (see my avatar to the left). If it could be done to look exactly like that drawing, that would be ideal in my mind :)
Lionel makes some awesome stuff (http://www.lionofthesun.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=finished). :D
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I if ever get my fox in time I'll be bringing him ^.^
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My Exiled Wolf suit will be there, and if I get the money together in time and can find someone to do it I'll be bringing my current planned suit, Leo, too.
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I'll be bringing the Shepsuit, and perhaps Falco (my White Shepherd character) if I can afford to get him made by the end of the year ;)
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I will be bringing Tosca (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/Lost_Girl/smalltosca.png)! She'll hopefully be finished by then (she's expected to be finished this year) so expect to see her there :D
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Timduru will love you! :D
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Well, if I can get the money together for registration before October, and MixedCandy can get the suit to me in June before the con date, then Blaster 2 will definately be there!
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Well, if I can get the money together for registration before October, and MixedCandy can get the suit to me in June before the con date, then Blaster 2 will definately be there!
Ooh! Another MixedCandy suit. Awesome. :D
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So, who's bringing a fursuit to ConFuzz? And if so which one(s)? :)
I'll be brining Radinov, my female husky and probably my werewolf (http://www.werewolf-inside.com/gallery/v/fursuits/graafen/) if I can transport them both. :D
Kibble will be there for sure, and maybe one other. I'll be working on a wolfy suit again soon.
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Cool :D
*snugs you all*
Do keep sending more photos =^.^=
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I intend to bring my only suit atm . Devilwuff
With the possibly plans for suit number 2 in the drawing stage that suit will take a while yet
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I'm bringing my Jenna suit. Every con needs a sexy vixen ;)
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I'm bringing my Jenna suit. Every con needs a sexy vixen ;)
Mmm! Oh yeah. ;)
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Timduru will love you! :D
I've been saying that for months :D
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I'd like to say that i could bring Miles along, but i dont know where the money would come from. I'm a student, and it would mean beans on toast (and nothing else) from now until then so i could afford it. It would be a halfsuit i'd be making.
However if i cant get this, i'll put together some accesories to represent Miles Valentine with. That'd involve the customised jeans i'm making for him, my longcoat and some roses in my hair. I might even dye my hair blonde X3
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Benny is coming, for certain! I got him a little while ago, and he is gorgeous!
Prepare for much pouncing and hugging.
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I have a big ass fan that can blow for England that I will put in the headless lounge for suiters to cool off :)
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Timduru will love you! :D
I've been saying that for months :D
Squeee ^^
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Ooh! Another MixedCandy suit. Awesome. :D
Another? Who else has one I/we know?
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Ooh! Another MixedCandy suit. Awesome. :D
Another? Who else has one I/we know?
Well I'll have one come FC08 and there will be a few others here who are planning to get an MC suit before ConFuzzled.
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Hoping to get a partial of Loupy. Just need to get my measurements and that'll be it. Then to hide the flipping thing in the house... <.< Easier said than done.
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I have two mixedcandy suits :)
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u lucky bugger show them!
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How did all you guys get round MC's requirement on having a duct-tape dummy for full suits? Everyone I know finds them a bitch to make, and then there's getting them sent over to the US in the first place without damage. :P
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How did all you guys get round MC's requirement on having a duct-tape dummy for full suits? Everyone I know finds them a bitch to make, and then there's getting them sent over to the US in the first place without damage. :P
DTD's are easy to make really, so long as the person using the tape knows how to do it. :)
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How did all you guys get round MC's requirement on having a duct-tape dummy for full suits? Everyone I know finds them a bitch to make, and then there's getting them sent over to the US in the first place without damage. :P
DTD's are easy to make really, so long as the person using the tape knows how to do it. :)
I've been DTD'd and helped do several others. They really are easy to do, and there are ways to make it more comfortable for the "model". Once done they are pretty easy to ship and store providing you haven't stuffed them. Perhaps is something to demo (not the whole process) at Confuzzled?
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I actually was the subject of a DTD panel at FC2006. It was quite funky.
Maybe we should do a quick demo on making one at ConFuzzled. :)
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DTD's can be improvised.without using Ducttape.. Boiler suits or one-piece overalls can be used if you don't want the suit to be too tight ^_^ I think I'll just make mine a partial fursuit, Bust, paws head and tails, I also have to make one for my Friend who's also comming but she just wants ears tail and paws, which I can bang up within two or three days ^_^. woot
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Ill hopefully be there, with my first fursuit (well, fursuit/lycra mix), Alize. I havent got her yet unfortunetly, but my freind is sending her in the next week or so so expect a better pic then. At the moment though I do have a screenshot from a vid she sent me of herself in it.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/JoeyAKALD/ZephZebra.jpg
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Very very nice, Alize. :)
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Thanks although Credit should go to Rabbitinthemoon, the suit was one of her first costumes and since she doesnt use her anymore and wanted her to go to a good home, I offered
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cool
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Lol
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When I am there, prepare for OTTAHPOUNCIES!
I'll pounce anything fuzzy....or even not fuzzy! ;D
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When I am there, prepare for OTTAHPOUNCIES!
I'll pounce anything fuzzy....or even not fuzzy! ;D
just be careful with me then, I could be in heels ;P
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Whilst my health means a full blown Fursuit would be practically suicide I am attempting to design and build a wheelchair friendly set of removable prosthetic ears, tail, paws and my signature robe.
I use false teeth so I might see about getting a set of rodent teeth made if it's inexpensive and I suppose I could make a lightweight mask... not a full blown fur suit I know, but it should hopefully be a decent compromise :)
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Whilst my health means a full blown Fursuit would be practically suicide I am attempting to design and build a wheelchair friendly set of removable prosthetic ears, tail, paws and my signature robe.
I use false teeth so I might see about getting a set of rodent teeth made if it's inexpensive and I suppose I could make a lightweight mask... not a full blown fur suit I know, but it should hopefully be a decent compromise :)
It would be relatively easy, I think, to take a cast of the false teeth, scuplt some enhancements, then cast a new set. Easy that is compared with casting teeth still in one's head, and then doing all the fiddly bits around the gums and roof.
Good luck with the suit!
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Now Im in a slight pickle. Not a bad pickle mind you :p Ive paid and registered, and Alize will be here anyday now, the thing is though I have another fursuit coming through too (a Fennec full body fursuit from a freind). Now which do I bring..or do I bring both? ;)
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those of you who are lucky or rich enougth to have 2 suits.
i wish i could afford that, you lucky furs. 8)
i feera fox will be suited up since it's my first con, i'm not
wearing my fursuit until the con. as i don't want to wear
it out, i want to look my best. (he says as he preens himself).
the heat issue of foam heads, any tips to make my
fursuiting experience at confuzzled more confortable,
i am tubed in the muzzle to ease overheating.
less than a year now, oh joy. :)
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those of you who are lucky or rich enougth to have 2 suits.
i wish i could afford that, you lucky furs. 8)
i feera fox will be suited up since it's my first con, i'm not
wearing my fursuit until the con. as i don't want to wear
it out, i want to look my best. (he says as he preens himself).
the heat issue of foam heads, any tips to make my
fursuiting experience at confuzzled more confortable,
i am tubed in the muzzle to ease overheating.
less than a year now, oh joy. :)
More luck than rich for me :p Im jobless at the moment
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Sooo happy I can finally post here with a picture of Tosca now!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29796266@N00/1095790953/in/set-72157601398890289/
Expect to see her at ConFuzzled! :D
Sno and I also may have plans to be bring another fursuit along - a partial - but for now that's a secret...
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I will bring my female brown husky suit :)
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Sooo happy I can finally post here with a picture of Tosca now!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29796266@N00/1095790953/in/set-72157601398890289/
Expect to see her at ConFuzzled! :D
That's an uber cute suit you have ^.^ *snugglepounces*
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Y'know 'Fuzzled has encouraged me to order my first fursuit.
I'm getting my hare character Belle commissioned from Lacy and I know it'll be love at first sight when she arrives.
Only thing is there is NO WAY I can possibly afford a full body suit at this moment in time, and had to go with just a partial (head, paws and fluffy tail!). I'll have fun trying to find clothes for her to wear this way though.
I'm just a tad worried about transporting the head around, I'm terrified it'll get crushed or who-knows on the journey (especially if I end up having to take the train). Any advise on moving a fursuit about safely?
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Now Im in a slight pickle. Not a bad pickle mind you :p Ive paid and registered, and Alize will be here anyday now, the thing is though I have another fursuit coming through too (a Fennec full body fursuit from a freind). Now which do I bring..or do I bring both? ;)
You can bring as many suits as you like :p
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Now Im in a slight pickle. Not a bad pickle mind you :p Ive paid and registered, and Alize will be here anyday now, the thing is though I have another fursuit coming through too (a Fennec full body fursuit from a freind). Now which do I bring..or do I bring both? ;)
You can bring as many suits as you like :p
or as many as I can transport with me XD my Fennec one might be a bit hard to carry in anything given the size of her ears
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I'll be wearing my tail from Edinburgh Waverly station to Manchester on the train, and through the whole con.
Does that count? ^^
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So far no tail no suit no ears no nothing!!
*Crys*
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Aw make yourself a tail. It only takes about 7 hours if you work hard at it. And You really only have to have a basic grasp of sewing. I'me hopeless but I made one x3
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of course Blanko will be present ;)
he wouldn't miss an opportunity to flaunt his fabulousness!
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Sadly I am without suit. Really cant afford to buy one and my creative talent is... less than stellar.
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Sadly I am without suit. Really cant afford to buy one and my creative talent is... less than stellar.
You don't have to be very creative to make a suit. ^^
Just look at "Uncle Kage" http://www.unclekage.com/unknown.html
He used a paper bag. :P
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Jasper will be on show in both partial and full modes depending on heat/how I'm feeling :)
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I have a husky suit too, now! He will be wearing BDUs though (army camouflage for those who don't know what DPA is).
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hyooman suit ^^!
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as if two suits last year wasnt enough, Im getting a third suit done, a Partial Bengal cat, hopefully in time for Confuzzled. Only problem now is finding enough time for all three
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hyooman suit ^^!
Hyooman! Get it! *runs with torch and pitchfork*
;D
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Just curious - in the fursuiters lounge, will there be an area provisioned for giant furpiles? ::)
;D Hug time! Pounce the fluffy people!
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I will be bringing my cosmo suit (http://pics.livejournal.com/chris_cosmo/pic/0000k3cq/s640x480 (http://pics.livejournal.com/chris_cosmo/pic/0000k3cq/s640x480)) with me.
Just realised how tall he makes me look...
Must wear him more often ;)
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Yay! That suit looks awesome!
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He is. But I need to get new claws for him. The fur's that thick that the glu didn't adhere properly and I lost a claw at the last Manchester meet.
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I know the feeling. Benny lost a pawpad on his thumb. hohtehnoes!
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I have a husky suit too, now! He will be wearing BDUs though (army camouflage for those who don't know what DPA is).
Now, the question I be askings of you be what pattern of BDU does one be havings?
I also be speakings in the present tense, maybe I am being a pirate for some reason I not be knowings...
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British woodland camo, like current issue army materials.
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British woodland camo, like current issue army materials.
Hmmm... I gots me some of those ;) Can't fault them, but every man and his dog has a set these days (You husky proving the later part of that saying :P)
I'm actually after something a little different for my suit, but haven't decided exactly what just yet. I'm bored with my Flecktarn. Yeah, I have a short attention span :D
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Flecktarn? Bleurgh :P
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Flecktarn? Bleurgh :P
Exactly why I'm getting some new stuff. Either Desert Tigerstripe or ACU.
We same to have moved from "Fursuiting at ConFuzzled" to "Gear-w*nk on the Forum" :P
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Speak for yourself, LOL. I'm discussing bits of my costume for Dusk. He wears BDUs as standard. I'm getting a Sangluna badge to match and all.
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Speak for yourself, LOL. I'm discussing bits of my costume for Dusk. He wears BDUs as standard. I'm getting a Sangluna badge to match and all.
Hehe. Well I'm always in BDU's, I'd give a shiny shilling to anyone who can find a picture of me in suit without at lease one piece of tactical gear. It's just how my suit is: Professional soldier for hire. :D
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Major issue is that part of Dusk's standard armament is his AK47 and Mk23 SOCOM assault pistol, both of which I own Airsoft versions of, but as they are RIFs (Replica Imitation Firearms), that although we are allowed to use them for Airsoft the Violent Crime Reduction act says they are not to be used in public since they are that realistic. So I can't bring them, even if unloaded and with no battery or gas.
Too illegal and too dangerous. Police seeing me with them can get me shot. And that would not be good for the Airsoft community or the furry fandom.
EDIT: Bouncing off walls now! I have paid for CF! I'm on my way!
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Major issue is that part of Dusk's standard armament is his AK47 and Mk23 SOCOM assault pistol, both of which I own Airsoft versions of, but as they are RIFs (Replica Imitation Firearms), that although we are allowed to use them for Airsoft the Violent Crime Reduction act says they are not to be used in public since they are that realistic. So I can't bring them, even if unloaded and with no battery or gas.
Too illegal and too dangerous. Police seeing me with them can get me shot. And that would not be good for the Airsoft community or the furry fandom.
EDIT: Bouncing off walls now! I have paid for CF! I'm on my way!
Whilst I'm in no way completely familiar with the current laws on airsoft weapons (Despite being quite interested enough in the sport to own a Star L86 (That thing was expensive!)), I'm pretty sure that having the Mk23 at the venue, so long as it is in a holster, peace-bound and barrel-plugged, should be OK. The AK, I'm not so sure about, but the Weapons Policy (http://www.confuzzled.org.uk/content/en/Weapons+Policy) says replica firearms must be holstered at al times in convention space, and I've yet to find an AK holster :P. This might be something worth asking in the Q&A forum, that way you can get input from ConOps and Security, rather than just your friendly, gun-totting Media Relations ;).
And for the record, the VCRA/B/Whatever just reiterates the "Don't be a fool and wave it around in public" bit that's been law since, well, a long time ago. Also, I think that if the police saw them and shot you, it wouldn't just be bad for airsoft and furry, but for you too ;D.
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Sadder for the fandom I think. A tad more important than myself is the wellbeing of my friends. But the VCRA exemption just basically means "while guns like this are completely illegal now, only airsofters get an exemption".
The Mk23 may make an appearance in a holster while peacebound. The AK47 stays.
Also, my dad (Darkstar the wolf) has the Star L86 as well! Awesome gun! Not like the G&G version with the bolt that moves back and forth as you fire which then makes the internals break. LOL.
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I really really want a fursuit, but i don't have much money.
Anyone who know about a fursuit maker, or is one, who can help me?
I've been trying to get someone to make me a fursuit for a long time, but noone answers my mails. Ive waited so long. Like months, and still no answers.
So, i finally gave up and write here instead.
I need a cheap, but good looking fursuit. (isn't that what all want? :P ). Well, the most important thing is that it's cheap.
I would really appreciate it if anyone have any tips or know who i can talk to (and that answers) to get one? :)
well, i do alredy have a partial homemade tiger fursuit ish thing. :P
But, it dosen't feel like a real fursuit. ^^
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I really really want a fursuit, but i don't have much money.
Anyone who know about a fursuit maker, or is one, who can help me?
I've been trying to get someone to make me a fursuit for a long time, but noone answers my mails. Ive waited so long. Like months, and still no answers.
So, i finally gave up and write here instead.
I need a cheap, but good looking fursuit. (isn't that what all want? :P ). Well, the most important thing is that it's cheap.
I would really appreciate it if anyone have any tips or know who i can talk to (and that answers) to get one? :)
well, i do alredy have a partial homemade tiger fursuit ish thing. :P
But, it dosen't feel like a real fursuit. ^^
and what price range do you mean by cheap? Ive seen one come on Furbid a few times thats quite cheap
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about 400-1000 dollar or something like that. But, i only have 600 now
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about 400-1000 dollar or something like that. But, i only have 600 now
Quite a few fursuit makers I know will do a partial within those price ranges
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about 400-1000 dollar or something like that. But, i only have 600 now
Quite a few fursuit makers I know will do a partial within those price ranges
cool. :3
I would prefere a full fursuit tho. but, wich makers do you think can do it?
A partial is better than nothing. :)
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about 400-1000 dollar or something like that. But, i only have 600 now
Quite a few fursuit makers I know will do a partial within those price ranges
cool. :3
I would prefere a full fursuit tho. but, wich makers do you think can do it?
A partial is better than nothing. :)
Ill have to do a quick search for a full list of ones who would do partials, but I know off the top of my head that Im currently getting a partial made by a freind for £200 ($400 roughly)
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Ill have to do a quick search for a full list of ones who would do partials, but I know off the top of my head that Im currently getting a partial made by a freind for £200 ($400 roughly)
cool. :3
Can't wait for it
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Ill have to do a quick search for a full list of ones who would do partials, but I know off the top of my head that Im currently getting a partial made by a freind for £200 ($400 roughly)
cool. :3
Can't wait for it
same here, its his first commition so hopefully it will turn out well, he also has another person lined up for a commition afterwards and depending on how mine turns out, maybe another from a freind ;)
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Ill have to do a quick search for a full list of ones who would do partials, but I know off the top of my head that Im currently getting a partial made by a freind for £200 ($400 roughly)
cool. :3
Can't wait for it
same here, its his first commition so hopefully it will turn out well, he also has another person lined up for a commition afterwards and depending on how mine turns out, maybe another from a freind ;)
nice! :D
post pics of it when u can. ^^
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*Has no suit, but will surly bring his tail ^^*
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i've asked if i need to register each fursuit to bring, as i have awenic my first creation
he's a two piece fursuit, with a hood head with a pouch, good place for storing water.
but he's a squirrel but a mixture. :), he's my no.2 fursuit.
is he fine to bring? is cross over creatures fine, if all goes well this year, i'm thinking of bringing
a pvc squirrel, would he be a fursuit? as he's not made from faux fur, i wish to know are pvc
squirrels within the confuzzled flavour being ok to bring once created?
i'm experimenting with materials, i'm just not sure if such a creature would be usable for confuzzled?
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I would personally say that a PVC suit would not be appreciated by some members at the convention, please bear that in mind!
No, you don't need to register the fursuit, just turn up with it!
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at least i know, so he's not suitable, still once created there's still he's going to be useful
i'll wear him walking down the high street and go shopping, sounds like fun.
my number two fursuit is faux fur, that's who i'm taking this year along with
feera, he's the squirrel who is awenic he's much more suitable, and better
so PVC suits no good, If one covers PVC head with fur a balenced mixture fox
might work, i guess the main rule is to look cuddly :), and one can't go wrong :)
thank you very much for your time and kind feedback
yours in light
feera fox
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at least i know, so he's not suitable, still once created there's still he's going to be useful
i'll wear him walking down the high street and go shopping, sounds like fun.
my number two fursuit is faux fur, that's who i'm taking this year along with
feera, he's the squirrel who is awenic he's much more suitable, and better
so PVC suits no good, If one covers PVC head with fur a balenced mixture fox
might work, i guess the main rule is to look cuddly :), and one can't go wrong :)
thank you very much for your time and kind feedback
yours in light
feera fox
What are you talking about? Some kind of skin tight squirrel suit?
I can think of why it isn't appreciated by some members of the convention, and possibly even less by the general public.
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i guess if you cower up the lower parts it should be ok?
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i guess if you cower up the lower parts it should be ok?
Well there is that, and yes I do believe if a costume has either real or fake genitals (I am not sidestepping here) showing, then I would think keeping them *well covered* would be OK. This is provided that the CF rules on such matters mirror those of Eurofurence.
That said the problem with PVC or any kind of full PVC suit for that matter. Is that it could be seen as BDSM or fetish wear (the same going for zentai costumes), which quite possibly under convention rules isn't allowed period. So regardless of whether its covered or not you still might wind up on the wrong side of convention security.
Before anyone asks. Yes I do know about the incident at EF13 involving a person involved with running another large UK furry event, and a rather over zealous smack down from con security over the wearing of a PVC fursuit.
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well i would not myself see that as fetish, but i can understand why some might, but if a head is
pvc then furred up, so it looks cuddly and nice is that exceptable for wearing? if pvc is only
used as the head frame not for the look of pvc?, imagine puting long haired fur on such a frame.
is this ok, for a head?,
or maybe just sending pics of heads or fusuits to run by staff before brining it, would prevent problems,
with CF staff, for nothings worse than packing a fursuit finding out it can't be used, i find pvc a bit harsh
looking if not furred, i have two fursuits but more heads, maybe a bit on acceptable hybrid construction
techniques, would clear up what can be used for head and fursuit construction, and what can not. within
the CF rules because some who are making heads and fursuits for CF at home may not be aware of forbidden
techniques of construction.
Alexfox Wrote:
What are you talking about? Some kind of skin tight squirrel suit?
I can think of why it isn't appreciated by some members of the convention, and possibly even less by the general public.
Feera Fox Wrote: skin tight squirrel suit?, yes with pvc tail
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I shall be bringing Lupus along - this'll be his first outing at a convention :D
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Nice to see you here, Lupus!
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Many thanks! Sorry for being a bit tardy on the uptake - but I can barely cope with one forum let alone two! I'm here to stay now though ^^
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Loki Meerkat will be there in the fur... He's kinda gothy, but certainly friendly and speaks back to you... so pad over for a chat! :3
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to always have water whilst suited up, i'm doing a feera bag for my water and bits
i have made it and furred it, are any other furs doing this a bag to blend with ones
fursuit?, as most fursuits correct me if i'm wrong they don't have pockets as far as
i know.
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A few furs have a 'camel-back' inside their suit which is basically a water fileld backpack with a long tube they have inside their head... when they need a drink, they suck on the tube... easy!
Me, I rely on a long straw and making bar purchases... luckily I have a moving jaw and can open my mouth to get the straw in! :D
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A few furs have a 'camel-back' inside their suit which is basically a water fileld backpack with a long tube they have inside their head... when they need a drink, they suck on the tube... easy!
Me, I rely on a long straw and making bar purchases... luckily I have a moving jaw and can open my mouth to get the straw in! :D
Or, like me, they have the full tac-vest, complete with camel-bak, allowing bother water and alcomahol to be drunk dependent on mood, and with the tactical drinks probe you mentioned. Although that works less for those who don't go for the whole "kicking in your door and handcuffing you to a radiator" look... >_>
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Water will be available in the fursuit headless lounge during the con. There will also be fans to cool down and blower for drying heads.
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i've finished the bag to complement, feera well i had a lot of bugendy fur left
after fursuit was taken out for me, my awenic fursuit that i'll be bringing is my
own design, i created him basic but nice, i can say one thing about awenic is
"as seen on the news", i've not seen the report myself but it's good. i'm not
showing him on the list as i want him to be a surprise for everybody.
yours in light and big huggles to all.
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OKay,Jasper MK2 shall be debuting at CF,undergone a lot of changes,I'll be getting him back on Monday so will be interesting to see :)
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I'm currently working on a fullsuit to finish off my Loki partial... pads crossed I'll heave it ready for the con! :D
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Good luck to those who are still working on 'suits for the con! Can't wait to see them all! *wags* I'm only wearing a tail (and maybe ears) but kjdkljdljdsa fursuits :D Expect me to probably be all 'how did you make this?' or 'who made this?', I'm a wannabe fursuit maker ^^ I just need to wait until I have a decent enough job to buy the fur x___x;;;